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Re: Handicaps...time to stir things up
« Reply #15 on Nov 15, 2007, 11:40am »		[Quote]
winds blow harder here? hahahaha
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Re: Handicaps...time to stir things up
« Reply #16 on Nov 15, 2007, 8:40pm »		[Quote]
Let's see, do any of these places have wind?
Key West
San Francisco Bay
Kingston
I have a copy of the Pilot Charts for the North Atlantic and for the months from May to September there is no difference in wind strength between here and Boston. I'll have to double check Long Island sound, but I remember at the time that I was looking at the charts there was nothing significant that jumped out at me. When did I send those other to messages to the committee? Still no response from them on what happened at the meeting or what the source of their meteorological information is.

Here is an interesting note. While ordinarily a boat will be give a provisional rating until the boat has raced enough local regattas to satisfy them, if you check the boat listings on the NSYA site you'll find that the Rocket was not given a "T" rating when they dropped it to 128 and the boat has actually only raced at 2 regattas here - Chester where we finished somewhere around 16th, and Labour day where we DNF'd. Wonder what they are using for race results to make the rating permanent, and the same as the Melges 24?
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Re: Handicaps...time to stir things up
« Reply #17 on Nov 15, 2007, 8:55pm »		[Quote]
Hey Rob,
I think you answered your own question.

Did you hear the one about PHRF? Apparantly it doesn't stand for "Performance Handicap Racing Fleet" but rather "Protect the Handicap Rating of Friends".

The vast majority (over 90%) of racing in North America happens on week nights in 10 knots of breeze or less, a fact not considered by handicap committees generally it would seem.

The local committee only wants to consider open regattas where there is suitable breeze, whatever that means, since everybod has to sail and race in it, regardless of wind strength.

When was the last time there was a comprehensive review of all handicaps in the NSYA data base do you think? Would a review reveal discrepancies in how the handicap committee has applied the rules since the manual was written? I don't know, but it might be something worth reviewing over a cold winter weekend huddled over a flagon of steaming grog.
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Re: Handicaps...time to stir things up
« Reply #18 on Feb 20, 2009, 11:41pm »		[Quote]
Big excitement.

The NSYA has decided to switch from ASPN to PHRF.

They will not however be changing anyone's handicap, but rather apparantly just doing the math to change over to PHRF. But as they say in the advertising trade, "You can change the package but it is still the same old soap."

So if you weren't happy with your handicap under ASPN you will be no happier now. What's that French expression, something abot the more things change the more they stay the same?

Make that a big yawn.
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